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15 October 2009 @ 09:50 Memories
Kindred: The Embraced  
Kindred: The Embraced

Right so most of you have probably never heard of Kindred: The Embraced (or Kindred: the Embarassed as some liked to call it :)). K:tE was a short lived, 8 episode series based loosely on Vampire the Masquerade. VtM is a Whitewolf role playing game about, you guessed it, vampires.

The Clans
There are many vampire clans in the game and in the series we are introduced to 6 in San Francisco:
Ventrue - the business men and in this city rulers
Toreador - the artistes
Gangrel - the street punks
Brujah - the mob
Nosferatu - the quite odd and very secretive
and we get to see an Assimite as well in one ep

The clans have been adapted and simplified from the game to fit into the TV setup.

A Few Facts
The clans hide their true nature and blend in with human society, this is the Masquerade and it is to protect the whole of Kindred society and it the most important thing in Kindred society. Those who endanger the Masquerade tend to end up dead.

Each city had a Prince and he is responsible for making sure everything runs smoothly (and the Prince can be female :)). Under the prince are the Primogens who control each clan and meet in a council with the Prince to run the city.

Kindred make more Kindred by Embracing them; this consists of draining the mortal and then feeding them the blood of the Kindred making them. To embrace someone you have to ask permission of the Prince. Embracing another without permission is a big no, no.

Kindred can go out in daylight, but only when they have recently fed and it's not exactly good for them.

Kindred do not kill to feed, they use their powers of suggestion to make mortals forget about them.

The Characters
Frank KohanekFrank Kohanek
Frank is human. He's a detective and he finds out about Kindred in the first episode. He is not happy, but has no choice but the play along. He is my favourite character :).
He was played by C.Thomas Howell
Julian LunaJulian Luna
Julian is the Ventrue Prince of the City. He runs everything and all Kindred in San Francisco answer to him. He used to be Archon Raine's enforcer when Archon was the Prince of the City.
He was played by Mark Frankel
Lillie LangtryLillie Langtry
Lillie is the very beautiful and seductive Primogen of the Toreador Clan. She used to be Julian's lover and is almost obsessed with getting him back, to the point where she'd rather see him dead than with another woman. Toreadors have obsession issues.
She was played by Stacy Haiduk.
Daedalus is Primogen of the Nosferatu clan and he had a gentle soul, but can be very deadly when he needs to be. He is Julian's enforcer.
Cash is the Primogen of the Grangrel clan and becomes Julian's bodyguard in the first ep after his sire, Stevie Ray, is killed by Brujah. He's a little bit hot headed and madly in love with Sasha.
Kaitlin ByrneKaitlin Byrne
Kaitlin is human. She is a reporter and becomes mixed up with Julian. Their romance blossoms over the series even while Julian keeps trying to prevent her from finding out about Kindred.
Archon RaineArchon Raine
Archon is the Primogen of the Ventrue clan and used to be Prince of the City before Julian. He had been around and has many skeletons in the closet. He is Julian's sire and Julian talks to him about everything.
Sasha is Julian's human descendant and does not know about Kindred at the beginning of the series. She falls for Cash and things get more complicated from there.
Sonny is Julian's childe and is Frank's partner in the police force. Frank has no idea Sonny is Kindred even after he finds out that they exist.
Eddie FioriEddie Fiori
Eddie is the Primogen of the Brujah clan and Julian's biggest rival. Eddie wants to be Prince and is willing to do just about anything to get there.
Alexandra is why Frank finds out about Kindred; at the opening of the show they are a couple. She breaks the Masquerade in letting Frank know the truth and her life is forfeit, but she makes sure Frank is safe. She used to be Julian's lover.

kindred_fans - as far as I know this is the only Kindred LJ comm
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Lirrenlirren on 15th October 2009 10:37 (UTC)
I loved this show and was sad when they canceled it. Frank and Cash were my favorite characters.
Beren: BT - I am a vampireberen_writes on 15th October 2009 10:38 (UTC)
C. Thomas Howell, what's not to love :)
And Cash was very cool. The Romeo and Juliet thing he had going on with Sasha was great.
Meredythmeredyth_13 on 15th October 2009 10:40 (UTC)
LOL - I have been a quiet fan of KtE since it was first on tv here. And it's possible I may have had a strange mental affair with Julian for quite a while. Totally ship Cash/Sasha - one of my few canon ships.

I think it's tragic that Mark died, and there wasn't any more of it. :(

I recently obtained all eight eps, and watched them again after so long. It still stands up reasonably well, all things considered.

Beren: AB - Vamp loveberen_writes on 15th October 2009 10:44 (UTC)
I have loved it since it first showed as well. Mark's death was so sad; he was cut down in his prime.

I had to have the DVDs as soon as they came out :).
Meredyth: Veela Dracomeredyth_13 on 15th October 2009 10:50 (UTC)
I should get the DVDs - my copies aren't very good quality.

The clan politics were very interesting. I think there's amazing cross-over potential. I can readily see a Tru Blood / KtE crossover. I wouldn't be surprised if KtE influenced some of CH's world building for her vampires.

I had a mixed reaction when it went to air - I loved the premise, but hated the character of Frank (*ducks*), so I stopped watching it, and then caught it again one night I was sitting up sick, and got totally hooked on it, but it was only an ep or two from the end. It was ages before I got to see all of it.
Beren: AB - Vamp loveberen_writes on 15th October 2009 11:02 (UTC)
You didn't like Frank!!!!???? ;P
I can see how he might have been a little annoying, but I love C. Thomas Howell ::g::

I think Tru Blood and KtE might be quite hard to integrate, given that they both have well laid out structure and ones about hiding and the other is about coming out - LOL. Could be fun though :)

Hmmm ... Julian/Eric - Yum!
Claire: Misc: Sky Full of Starsmoonlettuce on 15th October 2009 10:53 (UTC)
Ah, Kindred... Strangely, my favourite characters for this aren't in the TV show. I adore Beckett and Lucita, both of whom are well known characters for the rpg, but never existed in the KtE world. (Hell, since KtE didn't go into the Sabbat, the Lucita's clan, the Lasombra, weren't even mentioned, afair.) Beckett's actually the reason I have the Gangrel clan logo on my shoulder :D

Edited because I apparently lose at spelling...

Edited at 2009-10-15 10:54 (UTC)
Beren: AB - Vamp loveberen_writes on 15th October 2009 11:06 (UTC)
Yeah, I think the whole game was a little complex for the TV so they simplified it a great deal. I still really liked it though :)

Ooh, I never realised you had the Gangrel logo on your shoulder - score zero for observation - LOL
Clairemoonlettuce on 15th October 2009 22:57 (UTC)
::grin:: Not many people see it as it's on the back of my right shoulder.
hpstrangelovehpstrangelove on 15th October 2009 11:02 (UTC)
I'd never heard of this show before; thanks for pointing it out. I just ordered the DVDs used at Amazon. Sounds like a great show. To bad it wasn't able to be continued.
Beren: AB - Vamp loveberen_writes on 15th October 2009 11:07 (UTC)
Ooh yay, a convert :) I think they had the start of a really good show, it was such a shame it was cancelled and then Mark Frankel died in a motorcycle accident, so there was never any chance of it being taken up again.
hpstrangelove: aaaHarryAndSeverus_ARThpstrangelove on 15th October 2009 12:09 (UTC)
I became addicted to vampires way back in the old Barnabas/Dark Shadows days. Even crappy stuff I'll watch/read, just to feed my addiction. But this sounds like an excellent show. I'm looking forward to it, and to reading your story.
Beren: AB - Vamp loveberen_writes on 15th October 2009 13:03 (UTC)
I have to admit I tried to get into Dark Shadows and just couldn't , but I think part of that was it was on at the wrong time and I kept missing it.

I've been addicted to vamps since The Lost Boys. There are two films I blame for most of my fic wants, one is the Lost Boys for my vamp obsession and the other if The Empire Strikes Back for my h/c love and my need for a happy ending ::g::
sashimi saladsashimi_salad on 15th October 2009 11:16 (UTC)
LOL! I never followed the series, nor the game ( I think they stopped playign it when I found the fandom).


But, I was in love with a certain series of stories written based on this universe. It was a crossover between Kindred: The Masquerade and Highlander, written by...a pair of writers whom I can't trace anymore :(((
Beren: HL - animberen_writes on 15th October 2009 11:19 (UTC)
Have you tried this link:
The woman who runs it has been collecting links and tracking down stories and the like. Even my old version of Opposites was on there ::g::

If you do find it I'd love a link please :)
sashimi saladsashimi_salad on 15th October 2009 15:47 (UTC)
Your post triggered a hankering to read this all over again and I actually spent 3 hours searching for it. I finally managed to locate some of it.

Beren: AB - Vamp loveberen_writes on 15th October 2009 15:50 (UTC)
Thank you for the link I shall check it out :)
lexstar29lexstar29 on 15th October 2009 11:59 (UTC)
I loved that show so much!
Beren: AB - Vamp loveberen_writes on 15th October 2009 13:04 (UTC)
It was good, wasn't it - shame it was pre-LJ, I think it might still have a bit more of a following had it be around with LJ.
carvedwoodcarvedwood on 15th October 2009 12:06 (UTC)
We have these DVDs at my house. Daedalus was my favorite.
Also, I got suckered into my one and only rpg attempt with this game. My character was a Toreador named Jack. I would have done better as a Ventrue or a Brujah, though, but I wasn't allowed because "first time players don't know how to handle anything more complicated than a Toreador," nevermind the fact that being beautiful and artistic is complicated as hell and all I would have had to do starting out as a Ventrue or a Brujah is open up a business. An Assimite would have been fun, too.
It wasn't a good experience - the girlfriend of the guy running the game Mary-Sued me into quitting in disgust.
Beren: weirdberen_writes on 15th October 2009 13:10 (UTC)
Daedalus was great and so angsty, especially in that ep where he fell in love.

Oh no, Mary-Sued in a role playing game, that's no fair.

Toreadors are complex and just as difficult as Brujah and Ventrue! I had a lot of fun once playing a Malk - it was live action and a mixture of universes and my Malk thought she was a Jedi, and had a split personality that was Sith - it was hilarious. Because I was dressed as a Jedi took some people an age to work out I wasn't really.
carvedwoodcarvedwood on 15th October 2009 22:32 (UTC)
Daedalus was yummy. The ep where he fell in love felt a lot, um, Phantom of the Opera-ish, you know? I liked the episode where he brought that stray kid home and Julian made him get rid of it.

About the Mary Sue... you know what's funny? This chick actually created two characters, one of which was, apparently, created for nothing more than to give the first (dominant) character someone to thoroughly Mary-Sue into submission! Mmm. Well, trying to dominate someone who fights back isn't very satisfactory, unless you're winning.

A Malk would have been so much fun - OMG, it's like Discordianism for vampires! A split personality - excellent!
Beren: KtE - animationberen_writes on 16th October 2009 15:00 (UTC)
Yep, very Phantom, but then there are only so many original plots :)

You're kidding, she not only Mary-Sued, she created a character to lord it over as well? That's taking the biscuit!

I've never role played seriously, only ever live action one off events, but it's always been fun.
coffee and dreams: stitch-fandom (gift)taibhrigh on 15th October 2009 13:22 (UTC)
Does this mean you might write in the series again....hmmmm?
Beren: AB - Vamp loveberen_writes on 15th October 2009 13:48 (UTC)
You mean other than the rework I just did on Opposites?
... Hmmm .... maybe. I have been looking for a reason to watch it all over again :).
coffee and dreams: stitch-fandom (gift)taibhrigh on 15th October 2009 17:44 (UTC)
I just saw that you had "re-vamped" the story (from way back when). It'll be interesting to see it now that you slashified it :-)

... Hmmm .... maybe. I have been looking for a reason to watch it all over again :)

2 reason: Frank. Cash.
Beren: AB - Vamp loveberen_writes on 16th October 2009 08:23 (UTC)
Couldn't resist the pun ;)
Connotations this year made me all nostalgic and in the car on the way home I just decided I wanted to look at the fic again and I couldn't help thinking that Frank and Richie would make a hot couple ::g::.

I like you reasons ::g::
coffee and dreams: stitch-fandom (gift)taibhrigh on 16th October 2009 14:19 (UTC)
Plus, you could always write a sequel to Opposites... :)
Beren: KtE - animationberen_writes on 16th October 2009 15:02 (UTC)
I could ... but would anyone read it, that's the question. Most of the HL brigade seem to be Duncan/Methos fans and I think the number of Kindred fans is very small. Of course, that's never stopped me before - LOL.

Made an K:tE icon just in case ;)
coffee and dreams: stitch-fandom (gift)taibhrigh on 16th October 2009 15:25 (UTC)
Well, you could just focus on Richie and Frank.

Made an K:tE icon just in case ;)


Plus, I bet you could get Kindred added to the list of smallfandoms at smallfandomfest as I'm sure there are people out there who liked the show and never knew there was fic for it.
titacats: tomititacats on 15th October 2009 16:23 (UTC)
LOL I used to PLAY this over the internet YEARS ago. lol My character was Ventrue and I even had one of those tacky ventrue pins that Whitewolf sold.

Heee I loved the series and was sad when it got canceled.
Beren: BT - I am a vampireberen_writes on 16th October 2009 08:07 (UTC)
It was very sad it got cancelled. What with the joy in vamp series at the moment they should remake it :)
elfflameelfflame on 15th October 2009 18:04 (UTC)
I watched all 8 episodes, and in fact on the DVD, though more for Mark Frankel than anything else--he is so delicious. But the way they twisted the Masquerade stuff, and the fact that they pulled so obviously from Forever Knight made it a bit painful. I suppose if it had managed to get beyond the first season, it might have improved...

The truly sad thing was that Mark Frankel died the next year in a motorcyle accident.
Beren: AB - Vamp loveberen_writes on 16th October 2009 08:21 (UTC)
I've never actually considered Kindred and FK in the same thought, apart from the fact that they sit in the same section of my DVD collection - LOL. I know Frank's a cop and his partner is a vamp that he doesn't know about, but since it wasn't played from the vamp cop angle I never actually associated the two.

I've never been deep into the RPG so I loved the bits they lifted from it. The thing about the Whitewolf world is it's so complex and trying to convey that in a TV would have been impossible. They messed with the clans, but I kind of liked the way they did it.

Yeah, it was very sad about Mark.
elfflameelfflame on 16th October 2009 15:44 (UTC)
There was the cop angle, and also Lillie, who was a bit too similar to Janette. I think there were a few other things, too, but I can't remember--it's been too long since I re-watched. But like I said, I think it would have pulled more away as time went on. The first episode was the worst.

I actually haven't been into Masquerade, either, but knew enough that it bugged me they shifted around names and traits a little.
Beren: KtE - animationberen_writes on 16th October 2009 15:58 (UTC)
Hadn't thought about Lillie vs Janette ... I see what you mean. Then again it is a very good job for a Toreador ::g::.

I also hadn't seen my FK when I was watching KtE - it was quite hard to get my hands on at the time. I've only seen it all now because I bought the DVDs. I should rewatch Kindred and see what I think now since I only watch FK the other month :)

I had friends at Uni who were rather upset about the way they messed around with the clans too, but I can see why they did it. If they wanted Gangrel and Brujah in the same place they had to change their traits.
elfflameelfflame on 16th October 2009 16:16 (UTC)
:D Yes, it very much is.

Aah, that would make the difference. I might have to do the same sometime soon. Write a list of the similarities per episode.

I remember people telling me just how badly they'd mangled some things. Only a very small amount of details stuck out to me, from what I did know about the game.
Miss Salad of the Bats: nosferatulightsaladbats on 16th October 2009 03:56 (UTC)
This post reminds me that it's been awhile since I've watched the series. Time for a re-watching!
And I can't say enough good things about their choice to cast Patricia Charbonneau as the Nosferatu character Camilla.
Beren: AB - Vamp loveberen_writes on 16th October 2009 08:22 (UTC)
Yeah, I think it's time to rewatch too :)
I only vaguely remember that ep, it is definitely time to rewatch!
Michellevamp_ress on 18th October 2009 19:51 (UTC)
I loved the show when it was on tv, what a pity it was cancelled so soon:(
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